Spherion/Dell NOT paying overtime

"Mike Reed" <paramedicop.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162317485.036063.188360@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> So I just got off a call with Spherion regarding potential contracts at
> Dell. Did you know that Dell recently injected a third party into its
> contracting process, such that outside recruiters now work with this
> third party, who works with Dell? But that's not the best of it. At
> the END of the interview/screening, when discussing rates, I was told
> that overtime was expected but that it would contractually be paid at
> STRAIGHT TIME, not TIME AND A HALF. So THAT's how Dell is reducing
> costs... trying to illegally circumvent overtime laws.
>
> For those out there contracting, I'd recommend staying away from
> Spherion (and especially Dell), and TEK Systems (who tried the same
> thing with me at Dell). There's bad juju afloat, my friend.
>
> Mike Reed
> disgruntled potential contractor...
>

Dell/Spherion have been doing work for over 5 years.
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Mike Reed wrote:
> So I just got off a call with Spherion regarding potential contracts at
> Dell. Did you know that Dell recently injected a third party into its
> contracting process, such that outside recruiters now work with this
> third party, who works with Dell? But that's not the best of it. At
> the END of the interview/screening, when discussing rates, I was told
> that overtime was expected but that it would contractually be paid at
> STRAIGHT TIME, not TIME AND A HALF. So THAT's how Dell is reducing
> costs... trying to illegally circumvent overtime laws.
>
> For those out there contracting, I'd recommend staying away from
> Spherion (and especially Dell), and TEK Systems (who tried the same
> thing with me at Dell). There's bad juju afloat, my friend.
>
> Mike Reed
> disgruntled potential contractor...
>


Not trying to defend them, but would you have been an employee (W2) or a
contractor (1099) ???

I'm assuming the latter. Unfortunately, contractors are self-employed,
and as such not subject to overtime laws.

If not, there's no legal way around it. As an employee you are entitled
to time and a half past 40 hours per week.

Now you said they *told you* overtime was to be expected. If such an
expectation is not part of the written contract, you would be under no
obligation to follow it. You hit 40 hours, you go home for the rest of
the week. Maybe you can pull a few 14 hour days in a row & have 4 off.
(Though you'd probably spend the first day resting up & de-compressing...)

That one would get interesting if they tried to terminate you on such
grounds, but really nothing can be definitively said without seeing the
contract.
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Mike Reed wrote:
>
> So I just got off a call with Spherion regarding potential contracts at
> Dell. Did you know that Dell recently injected a third party into its
> contracting process, such that outside recruiters now work with this
> third party, who works with Dell? But that's not the best of it. At
> the END of the interview/screening, when discussing rates, I was told
> that overtime was expected but that it would contractually be paid at
> STRAIGHT TIME, not TIME AND A HALF. So THAT's how Dell is reducing
> costs... trying to illegally circumvent overtime laws.
>

Not necessarily, as the status of those who qualify for OT after forty
hours changed two or three years ago. A lot of technical, engineering,
lead and support positions now are classified "professional" and are exempt.


> For those out there contracting, I'd recommend staying away from
> Spherion (and especially Dell), and TEK Systems (who tried the same
> thing with me at Dell). There's bad juju afloat, my friend.
>
> Mike Reed
> disgruntled potential contractor...


Dell is pitiful windoze box assemble with a reputation of being far
below a reputable employer. Spherion etc. follow in the same path...

JT
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In article <Xns986EE04ABA621mapi.TakeThisOut@216.168.3.64>,
Mapanari <The_Lord.TakeThisOut@anonmail.com> wrote:
>
>Most stock watchers have a "sell" on Dell.
>
Of the 10 I checked, 2 rate Dell "sell", 7 rate it hold or
neutral, and one rates it "buy".

>public has finally noticed that Dell is not a very good computer.

They're pretty good for a mass produced PC. Their servers
are good quality, too. Some of their network stuff has minor flaws,
broken SNMP implementations and the like but it's otherwise a good deal.
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In article <Xns986F5FD12373Dmapi.TakeThisOut@216.168.3.64>,
Mapanari <The_Lord.TakeThisOut@anonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>According to Consumer reports

No, what they say is that while dissatisifaction with customer
service has increased >80% of people who purchased one are satisfied.

Stop lying.

Anyway, CR has some good things to say but they let ideology
get in the way of reality sometimes. They always hated the VW Bug but
it was a great car. For instance.

>propriatary

All Dells come with spell checkers!
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In article <YZr2h.3234$Qn2.2686@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
SkyKid <SK.DeleteThis@smnw.com> wrote:
>
>You are mistaken. You are referring to the standard Ford or GM vehicle.

Sorry, pal, Hondas are famous for having tinny panels that
rust out in any climate wetter than Arizona. "Honda Rust" even has
its own wikipedia entry.

>It has been well documented that the VTEC Honda engines as

VTEC? Very Tiny Engined Car? That fancy vtec is still an
interference design, so you'd better damn well change that belt at
60K or it'll interfere with your retirement planning.

>I'm sure if your ex wife loved Fords or GM vehicles you would be hating

Nahhh, I'd be driving a Ford if they made a four door with a manual
that could get out of its own way.
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In article <YZr2h.3234$Qn2.2686@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
SkyKid <SK RemoveThis @smnw.com> wrote:
>
>You are mistaken. You are referring to the standard Ford or GM vehicle.

Sorry, pal, Hondas are famous for having tinny panels that
rust out in any climate wetter than Arizona. "Honda Rust" even has
its own wikipedia entry.

>It has been well documented that the VTEC Honda engines as

VTEC? Very Tiny Engined Car? That fancy vtec is still an
interference design, so you'd better damn well change that belt at
60K or it'll interfere with your retirement planning.

>I'm sure if your ex wife loved Fords or GM vehicles you would be hating

Nahhh, I'd be driving a Ford if they made a four door with a manual
that could get out of its own way.
 >> Stay informed about: Spherion/Dell NOT paying overtime 

In article <YZr2h.3234$Qn2.2686@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
SkyKid <SK.TakeThisOut@smnw.com> wrote:
>
>You are mistaken. You are referring to the standard Ford or GM vehicle.

Sorry, pal, Hondas are famous for having tinny panels that
rust out in any climate wetter than Arizona. "Honda Rust" even has
its own wikipedia entry.

>It has been well documented that the VTEC Honda engines as

VTEC? Very Tiny Engined Car? That fancy vtec is still an
interference design, so you'd better damn well change that belt at
60K or it'll interfere with your retirement planning.

>I'm sure if your ex wife loved Fords or GM vehicles you would be hating

Nahhh, I'd be driving a Ford if they made a four door with a manual
that could get out of its own way.
 >> Stay informed about: Spherion/Dell NOT paying overtime 

In article <YZr2h.3234$Qn2.2686@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
SkyKid <SK.TakeThisOut@smnw.com> wrote:
>
>You are mistaken. You are referring to the standard Ford or GM vehicle.

Sorry, pal, Hondas are famous for having tinny panels that
rust out in any climate wetter than Arizona. "Honda Rust" even has
its own wikipedia entry.

>It has been well documented that the VTEC Honda engines as

VTEC? Very Tiny Engined Car? That fancy vtec is still an
interference design, so you'd better damn well change that belt at
60K or it'll interfere with your retirement planning.

>I'm sure if your ex wife loved Fords or GM vehicles you would be hating

Nahhh, I'd be driving a Ford if they made a four door with a manual
that could get out of its own way.
 >> Stay informed about: Spherion/Dell NOT paying overtime 

In article <YZr2h.3234$Qn2.2686@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
SkyKid <SK.DeleteThis@smnw.com> wrote:
>
>You are mistaken. You are referring to the standard Ford or GM vehicle.

Sorry, pal, Hondas are famous for having tinny panels that
rust out in any climate wetter than Arizona. "Honda Rust" even has
its own wikipedia entry.

>It has been well documented that the VTEC Honda engines as

VTEC? Very Tiny Engined Car? That fancy vtec is still an
interference design, so you'd better damn well change that belt at
60K or it'll interfere with your retirement planning.

>I'm sure if your ex wife loved Fords or GM vehicles you would be hating

Nahhh, I'd be driving a Ford if they made a four door with a manual
that could get out of its own way.
 >> Stay informed about: Spherion/Dell NOT paying overtime 

In article <YZr2h.3234$Qn2.2686@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
SkyKid <SK.RemoveThis@smnw.com> wrote:
>
>You are mistaken. You are referring to the standard Ford or GM vehicle.

Sorry, pal, Hondas are famous for having tinny panels that
rust out in any climate wetter than Arizona. "Honda Rust" even has
its own wikipedia entry.

>It has been well documented that the VTEC Honda engines as

VTEC? Very Tiny Engined Car? That fancy vtec is still an
interference design, so you'd better damn well change that belt at
60K or it'll interfere with your retirement planning.

>I'm sure if your ex wife loved Fords or GM vehicles you would be hating

Nahhh, I'd be driving a Ford if they made a four door with a manual
that could get out of its own way.
 >> Stay informed about: Spherion/Dell NOT paying overtime 

In article <YZr2h.3234$Qn2.2686@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
SkyKid <SK RemoveThis @smnw.com> wrote:
>
>You are mistaken. You are referring to the standard Ford or GM vehicle.

Sorry, pal, Hondas are famous for having tinny panels that
rust out in any climate wetter than Arizona. "Honda Rust" even has
its own wikipedia entry.

>It has been well documented that the VTEC Honda engines as

VTEC? Very Tiny Engined Car? That fancy vtec is still an
interference design, so you'd better damn well change that belt at
60K or it'll interfere with your retirement planning.

>I'm sure if your ex wife loved Fords or GM vehicles you would be hating

Nahhh, I'd be driving a Ford if they made a four door with a manual
that could get out of its own way.
 >> Stay informed about: Spherion/Dell NOT paying overtime 

In article <YZr2h.3234$Qn2.2686@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
SkyKid <SK.RemoveThis@smnw.com> wrote:
>
>You are mistaken. You are referring to the standard Ford or GM vehicle.

Sorry, pal, Hondas are famous for having tinny panels that
rust out in any climate wetter than Arizona. "Honda Rust" even has
its own wikipedia entry.

>It has been well documented that the VTEC Honda engines as

VTEC? Very Tiny Engined Car? That fancy vtec is still an
interference design, so you'd better damn well change that belt at
60K or it'll interfere with your retirement planning.

>I'm sure if your ex wife loved Fords or GM vehicles you would be hating

Nahhh, I'd be driving a Ford if they made a four door with a manual
that could get out of its own way.
 >> Stay informed about: Spherion/Dell NOT paying overtime